What will divorce do to your relationship with your kids?

This essay encourages men to consider what divorce will do to their relationships with their kids. I’m surprised that HuffPost Divorce even published it. Normally they are full-on cheerleaders for divorce. It’s very different from what they normally publish.

This author does a good job describing what it’s like. If it helps even one person then I’ll be happy.

Have you met someone else? Are you tired of the fighting? Does she just not ‘get’ you? Could you be more of a cliché?

There are plenty of reasons you may want to get divorced and for all I know yours might even be valid, but I’m here today to tell you about something you don’t see right now. You can’t possibly unless you’ve lived it and by then, the damage is done.

I’m sure you’ve given the idea of divorce a lot of thought but I want to add some perspective here. This is the real stuff they don’t tell you about. If you’ve read any of my other articles, you’ll know I’m all about learning from other people’s mistakes and experiences.

It’s why coaches exist. You shorten the learning curve by benefiting from their hard earned experiences.

Let me coach you on this one.

Think it over, real hard. You’re giving up a lot. More than you can know.

The first time you say goodbye to your kids and watch them walk away with their mother is when you’ll fully realize what you’ve done. That’s your family walking away, son.

That’s when it will hit you. Did you just f—k up beyond all measure? What were you thinking?

Those are your kids and they are literally walking away and leaving you behind. Just like you did to them.

There is a certain pain you will have to live with when you realize you are not the influence in their lives that you had hoped you would be. This realization will slowly creep up on you.

What on earth made you think you could be any sort of real influence in shaping their lives?

Are you there to tuck them in at night? Do you give them a goodnight kiss each night, even if they are already sleeping?

Are you able to notice that something went wrong at school today and to get them to talk about it? Are you able to see that they are proud of something and want someone (you) to make a big deal of it?

Of course not. You aren’t there. Those are the subtle clues you’ll have the privilege to act upon when you’re there for them every day. That’s when you comfort them, build character and form the relationship and trust you’ll share.

It’s these little moments in life that you share with your children that will affect them for the rest of their lives.

So don’t be surprised about how your kids are growing up and who they become. Don’t you dare even have an opinion about it, you weren’t there.

Eventually you’ll find you’re happier to see them than they will be to see you. You’re just a stop in their busy schedules. You may even be an inconvenience. They’ve got school, homework, after school activities, tutoring and friends they want to hang out with.

Your mid week visit will likely be filled with getting homework done, getting some food into them and getting them home on time.

That’s a lot of getting. Welcome to feeling like more of a hired baby sitter than a dad with his kids.

There will be certain times you or they may have to cancel a weekend or mid week visitation and then a bigger block of time passes before you see them again.

Who cares? They don’t.

They hardly see you anyway. It does wonders for your relationship. Wake up friend, they’re slipping away.

Do you think they won’t resent you when you have to discipline them? In there eyes, you’re a part time figure in their lives and now you think you have the right to tell them what to do?

Had you stayed married, your values would likely be aligned. Apart, those values will diverge and now, “Mom let’s us do this all the time!”

When you drop your kids off and say goodbye, don’t be surprised if they don’t even turn around for that final wave and kiss as they walk in the front door. They’re too happy to be home.

You’ll know where you stand when they are busy making a handmade Mother’s Day gift on your weekend while you get nothing for Father’s Day.

Are you ready for this one? What about when your ex remarries? There will now be a new man in the house that will be with your children more than you are. Over time, he will have spent more time with them than you ever will.

Do you really think he is not going to instill his values in your children, even if just by osmosis?

Your kids will spend holidays and weekends with his family. What are they like? Are these the sort of people you want your kids to be around and learn from?

What happens if he’s more successful than you? Do you retreat? Do you overcompensate and make poor decisions?

Wake up friend, they have a new full time family now. They are together and they will build new memories as you fade even more.

At some point you may see your kids slipping away from you and turning into people you hardly recognize. You’ll wonder if maybe you’ve made the biggest mistake of your life – and theirs.

Look, I’m not pretending to know what your circumstances are. For all I know, you should be divorced and if that’s the case you can only focus on being the best dad you can be given your circumstances.

Staying together for the sake of the kids? I’m not a big fan of that move. Kids aren’t dumb. They’ll feel the stress.

Making your decision knowing all the possible outcomes? Count me in. If you can save your marriage, you benefit. All of you.

So, let me coach you on this one.

Do whatever you can to save your marriage and your relationship with your kids.

Think it over, real hard. You’re giving up on a lot. More than you can possibly know.

Al writes more on the things you’ve got to know about divorce on Divorce Candor

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/al-corona/to-the-dads-out-there-thi_b_9877796.html


Still picking up the pieces

I feel like there is something missing when I write about the cult, so maybe if I write about it more I’ll figure out what it is.

I first wrote about the cult here. Besides other things, I mentioned my brief affair with the cult leader in 1997, and how my ex-husband remains loyal to him, even to this day. The leader gets a pass on not only the affair with me, but with at least three other women. All the cult members know about the affairs. My ex is not the only husband to choose the leader over his own wife–another man did this as well.

I wonder how that works in their minds. The cult leader is so special that he gets to do whatever he wants… but your own wife, the mother of your children whom you claim to love unconditionally, remains unforgiven and an outcast. Plus now my ex is using a lot of alcohol, far more than he did while married. He is also involved with a woman whom my eldest daughter can’t stand and who is addicted to prescription pain meds. She has moved in and out, and is now maybe moving back in.

All this is done in the name of “real Christianity.”

That’s how the cult styles itself. It’s not “religion,” which they claim is a horrible, man-made thing. But it’s true spirituality, true Christianity.

What a farce.

Lots of misogyny there, a real hatred of women.

What is my own role in all this? Yes, I participated in a group that was extremely harmful to not only myself but others. Yes, I justified it through a strange brew of fear and pride. Yes, I regret ever being there. Yes, I see that my truly wonderful and beautiful children (and now grandchild) would not exist except for my involvement there. So that’s an unsolvable dichotomy. Making me choose between them is like holding a gun to my head. And I have no doubt that the cult leader has used that dichotomy as a way to justify his actions.

Maybe this is what is missing: I still love those people. I spent 22 years of my life there. There were some genuinely fun and even good times we had together, times we laughed, lots of funny inside jokes that developed over the years, the joy of our childbearing years and watching the children grow, many shared and delicious meals. We tried to create a tribe as a sort of shelter from this crazy world.

But it was built on sand, on the false notion that this leader was special, and that the normal rules of human engagement didn’t apply to us. I doubt any of us would have been friends outside of the cult. The arranged marriages would not have taken place either, since the partners would not have naturally picked one another. We thought we didn’t need our extended families, because they weren’t “spiritual” enough to understand what we were about. We often treated each other harshly, rudely, divisively, abusively… there was always a lot of gossip and backstabbing… all done in the name of telling the truth and being honest. But even that was a lie. We did those things to cover our own asses.

Towards the end of my time there, I wondered if I suffered from Stockholm Syndrome. Seems logical, right? But how is that diagnosed? If it’s true for me, is it true for others? Is it true of my ex-husband who is still there?

Children of Divorce Blogging Network

May 13, 2016

I want to start a blogging network for people who are blogging about what it was like to be a child of divorce. This way, we can join together to encourage each other and raise awareness about the problems we face.

If you are a child of divorce and want to be part of it, send me a link to your blog with a brief description. You can post it below or use the Contact form. I’ll post it here so that my readers can find your blog.

Then, consider setting up a page on your blog like this page so that you can tell your readers about the blogging network. It could have this title:

Children of Divorce Blogging Network

Ideas for your page: tell your readers why you believe a blogging network will be helpful. Ask them to send links to their blogs (assuming they are children of divorce). Ask them to set up pages on their blogs like this one.

We can slowly grow our blogging network. Yes, ours. Not mine. After all, “A rising tide lifts all boats.” My blog readers will find your blog, and vise versa. Plus we will educate people about how harmful divorce really is. More voices are always better, right?

I created a category called “children of divorce blogging network” so you can find other posts I’ve written on the subject.


Blogging Network:

Kent Darcie, an adult child of divorce, has a wonderful blog called Adult Children of Divorce. He works to help people identify and overcome issues that are linked to their parents’ divorce. He has a lot of great posts there. Check it out.


Half time family, full time hurt

I’m not new to blogging or writing online, but I am new to WordPress. So far I like it a lot. It’s way better than Blogger, that’s for sure.

One of my favorite things to do is to read other blogs with tags I use, such as divorce. While reading a few of those blog posts earlier today, I came across two new phrases that I’d not seen before:

  • Half family
  • Half-time kids

I gotta admit that it really hurt to read those words. Seeing the idea out there, that our children’s lives are fractured and we are completely OK with it. It is 100% normalized. It’s totally OK to do and to talk about, like walking the dog or mowing the lawn. There is no shame at all in sending your own children away from you and your daily life… for half their  young lives… to be with a multitude of people you had no say in vetting (aka, step-parents, cohabiting partners, dating partners). It’s been that way for a long time, I know, yes, I know all too well. But just seeing the fracture packaged so clinically like that, without any trace of doubt, remorse, regret…

I wanted to leave a comment but couldn’t figure out a way to broach the subject nicely. I wanted to say something like, “Your kid’s probably in a lot of pain but can’t talk about it.”

But I couldn’t say it. I have no relationship with those people so why should they listen to me? And even if I did, it would be hard, very hard. My anger gets the better of me too often and I get impatient or caustic. I know need to be compassionate to the adults who are tearing their kids’ souls into two pieces. I tell myself that they don’t see it… but on the other hand I can easily find evidence that they know what they are doing is wrong. They know.

There are too many barriers to telling the truth.


It is hard for children of divorce to speak out

I believe there are several reasons why it is hard for the children of divorce to speak out.

Honor our fathers and mothers

First, we still have to honor our fathers and mothers. It might seem like we will dishonor them if we speak out about how hard the divorce is. But let me turn this around: does it make sense that we honor them by pretending and suppressing ourselves? I don’t think so. And if I’m right, then this means we haven’t been honoring our parents properly when we pretend and suppress ourselves. I wrote more about this here.

Incorrect theoretical framework

Second, we have an entire professional class using an incorrect theoretical framework to understand our problem. Professionals such as psychiatrists, psychologists, medical doctors, and religious leaders believe, “The kids will be fine if the adults are happy.” They seem to believe that divorce is a one time shock that subsides and eventually disappears. This false belief has become a sacrosanct reason for us to never explore the pain surrounding the loss of our first families. After all, if professionals with Ph.Ds say we’re supposed to be OK without ever even talking to us as individuals to understand how we actually feel, then we better be OK. And if we are not OK, it means that there is something else wrong with us. Who wants to be thought of as having issues? Nobody.

A better theoretical framework would view divorce as an ontological wound that does not heal on its own. Let’s take Cindy’s story as an example. Cindy was a 19 year old college student when she was told that her parents were divorcing. Years later, she classifies herself as a “product of divorce,” and still cries over how much it hurts.

Wait a minute: she spent her entire childhood in an intact home. Why does she think of herself as a product of divorce? A product of divorce would be somebody whose parents divorced when she was young, or even in the womb. In fact, “product of divorce” is a contradiction, isn’t it? Product is another way of saying that two things have come together to make one think, but divorce means separation. Her statement makes no sense under the “one time shock” framework. I bet there are people in her life that tell her just to “get over it,” and think that she “has issues” or “needs therapy.” It’s because they have the wrong framework. But consider her statement under the “ontological wound” framework. Now it makes a lot more sense, doesn’t it?

buttressCelebrating divorce as a positive good

Third, we have a culture that celebrates divorce as a positive good, and some who go so far as to view it as a necessary rite of passage. How can we feel heard or validated in such a culture?

Imagine a wall, with buttresses that reinforce it. The wall is our denial of the pain, and these reasons are buttresses that prop up our denial.

So that’s why I think it is hard for the children of divorce to speak out.



HuffPo is right: divorce never ends

This video is great. Cindy tells a bit of her story surrounding her parents’divorce. A few things are notable:

  • She was 19 when they split up. This means she spent all of her childhood in an intact home. Yet, she considers herself a “product of divorce.” This speaks to the ontological issues that divorce creates.
  • She uses an analogy of the divorce being like breaking her pinkie and it not healing quite right. The “not healing quite right” is an important part of that. She says that she keeps moving on with life, and of course this is great. But consider the other side of that coin: we live in a culture that is 100% fine with fracturing parts of its children so that adults can have freedom. We focus so much on “you’ll be OK,” and “stay positive,” and so forth that we never stop to think: could we have prevented this fracture in the first place? It is as if we value the parents’ autonomy more than we do preventing our children from permanently feeling fractured on the inside.
  • “The ripple effects are always there.” Divorce never ends for the kids. Why? I believe it is because their very ontology, their very sense of being, has been permanently split. Cindy tells us about how she always has “to work through the crooked finger.” It never healed back to how it was before.

Divorce is not a one time shock from which children recover. It is a permanent disfigurement of the child’s family. As HuffPost Divorce says, “Marriages come and go, but divorce is forever.” I think they meant this a bit tongue in cheek, but for the kids it is spot on.

Tom Hank Talks About Parent’s Divorce At 5. — Meziesblog

Hollywood actor Tom Hanks has revealed he lost the feel of love from both parents to divorce at an early age of 5 and he remains devastated with the memories. The famous actor said his childhood was characterized by ‘loneliness’.

Read more: Hollywood Actor, Tom Hank Talks About Parent’s Divorce At 5. — Meziesblog

Do psychologists reinforce defense mechanisms?

“The kids will be fine if the adults are happy,” may serve as a buttress for a child’s defense mechanism, hindering progress in coping with the loss of his first family.

Until VERY recently, I never, ever, EVER allowed myself to dwell on my first family as an intact unit, how much I missed it, or how angry and sad I was about its demise.

Even though I was only three when my parents split up, I remember us being together in our home in Mission Viejo. I remember exactly how the inside of the home was laid out and where the home was situated on the cul-de-sac. In fact, not long after I got my driver’s license when I was 16, I was curious to see if I remembered where the house was. I drove there and sure enough, I found it. I know I found it because I later described it to my mother and she confirmed that I was correct. I also described the inside of the house, and she confirmed this as well.

quisp cerealI remember other things too, such as the color of our family car (black),  us sitting on the sofa together in the family room watching Star Trek and Petticoat Junction, and sitting at the coffee table eating Quisp cereal in a plastic bowl in the morning.

I am trying to understand the mechanics of why I literally NEVER dwelt on us being together, or on how much I missed my first family. I only recently began to allow myself to grieve its loss, over four decades later. I kept everything locked up inside, in a location I never explored. All of my thoughts and feelings about everything that happened because of the separation were blocked from my conscious mind. Nobody ever told me not to think about my first family, so perhaps this was a defense mechanism, my unconscious mind protecting me from experiencing the loss. Continue reading “Do psychologists reinforce defense mechanisms?”

Divorce is killing our children: a medical doctor speaks out

waiting for daddy

One medical doctor summarizes the social science data for us:

Continue reading “Divorce is killing our children: a medical doctor speaks out”

To the kids of divorce: we’re not alone

I could have written something very much like what appears below. I offer it here since I think it’s important for us kids of divorce to know that our situations are not unique to us:

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